Really, your best spot to fold was preflop, to the original 4-bet. Villain's 4-bet was also too small, as was his flop bet. Just curious what the forum thinks of this hand, which as played was very interesting. I don’t think the Hero wanted to overplay his JJ, if even to further narrow down his opponent. I see the value here in both arguments, but I feel they don’t take into account well enough having to make a decision in a certain spot, with certain variables. While against other players in that same group who are much more LAG, a 5 bet here would have resulted in a much higher win ratio, as it would force out weaker pairs and Ax hands who 4 bet attempting to steal the pot. By giving the villain the credit for the top of his range, he believed he knew right where he was at the whole time. But if he had followed this advise, he wouldn’t have had the opportunity to win. The hero’s rebuttal, was that by calling, he got to see the flop and reassess based on what the board presents. Knowing that he was behind at that point. That by not 5 betting, the Hero was not polarizing the villain enough, and should have bet, then folded to the eventual jam which likely would have followed by the villain. Villain turns over AA for the flopped top set.ĭiscussion at a day later, revolved around the preflop action. The river bricks out, and the Hero turns over JJ to the surprise of most at the table. Villain doesn’t think to hard before he calls. Requiring the villain to call $30 to see the river. Villain bets $35, hero not having a ton left jams for his remaining $70-ish. The down bet intrigues him, and feels that calling $25 to draw, and win approximately $120 seems acceptable, even if the hero is drawing to a Q. Hero tanks for a bit, believing this is likely the worst flop he could envision, he’s up against 2 pair, or a set of A or a set of K. Who visibly is taken back by the check even if for a second. Despite, likely being behind, Hero elects to take a flop. Hero hasn’t played with this individual before, so is giving villain credit for a premium hand here. Hero 3 bets to $15 (way too light), and the original raiser then 4 bets to $40. He gets 2 callers before it gets back to the Hero who looks down at JJ. UTG +2 raises to 6, not a big raise, but not an uncommon open. Here’s a recent hand from a week ago that has sparked some discussion with a local peer.ġ/1 NLH – effective stack $135 (approximately) – this game can play much bigger at time, potentially in the 2/5 range.

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